If you like to protest and get tasered, move to Eugene. --- LuckyBucky -- ( Jul 04, 12:35, 2008 ) (21 reads) link

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This should be concerning --- bigfatbeaver -- ( Jul 04, 08:30, 2008 ) (33 reads) link +5 It is a concern. Thanks for keeping us updated on it. --- bobmjohnson -- ( Jul 04, 09:28, 2008 ) (14 reads) +1 Re: It is a concern. Thanks for keeping us updated on it. --- bigfatbeaver -- ( Jul 04, 11:14, 2008 ) (7 reads) link +1 Yep, it is scary. What is worse, neither candidate is pushing for a budget surplus --- bobmjohnson -- ( Jul 04, 12:47, 2008 ) (6 reads) How is does The Fed "tax us indirectly through inflation"? --- beeev -- ( Jul 04, 09:46, 2008 ) (15 reads) +1 Re: How is does The Fed "tax us indirectly through inflation"? --- bigfatbeaver -- ( Jul 04, 11:05, 2008 ) (15 reads) link

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Activists' initiatives to dominate Oregon ballot. And Sizemore loses appeal in Supreme Court. --- bobmjohnson -- ( Jul 04, 06:43, 2008 ) (18 reads) link

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Uh oh. McCain is now losing the all important "back yard BBQ" voting block --- StateOfOrange -- ( Jul 03, 14:17, 2008 ) (37 reads) link +1 Personally...... --- beeev -- ( Jul 03, 16:08, 2008 ) (32 reads)

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Too good to be true, so I will consider it to be an urban legend --- dambeaver -- ( Jul 03, 12:18, 2008 ) (63 reads) link +3 That was funny....but that must be the only industry doing well..... --- beeev -- ( Jul 03, 12:32, 2008 ) (32 reads) link So the economy isn't the only thing getting stimulated! (no text) --- beaversage -- ( Jul 03, 14:13, 2008 ) (3 reads) +1 Am I reading that right? 10-20% growth in the size of their members!!?? (no text) --- bLeaver -- ( Jul 03, 16:30, 2008 ) (1 reads)

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Want to hold the telecomms responsible for their actions in spying? --- bobmjohnson -- ( Jul 03, 11:55, 2008 ) (36 reads) link +8 Heck no, Bob. --- dambeaver -- ( Jul 03, 12:26, 2008 ) (22 reads) +1 Re: Heck no, Bob. --- rafer -- ( Jul 03, 13:06, 2008 ) (21 reads) +1 What do you think was stopping the Justice Department and the phone companies from operating within the original FISA rules? --- dambeaver -- ( Jul 03, 15:35, 2008 ) (10 reads) +1 Back at ya, hope your 4th is a happpy one! --- rafer -- ( Jul 04, 10:14, 2008 ) (3 reads) You're wrong Bob... --- giantkillers -- ( Jul 03, 17:25, 2008 ) (20 reads) bob, all you need to know is that we haven't been attacked since 9-11 --- sagebrushbeaver -- ( Jul 04, 07:14, 2008 ) (6 reads) Question (to lazy to look up the answer) --- rafer -- ( Jul 04, 10:19, 2008 ) (4 reads) +1 Yes, they were. --- bobmjohnson -- ( Jul 04, 10:33, 2008 ) (2 reads) link

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Obama talks of sacrifice and national service --- bobmjohnson -- ( Jul 03, 10:25, 2008 ) (26 reads) link

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Obama change of heart on FISA bill? --- BeaverDude -- ( Jul 03, 08:05, 2008 ) (24 reads) link

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Time to rebalance the equity and balance between corporations and individuals on income tax paid in Oregon. --- bobmjohnson -- ( Jul 03, 07:34, 2008 ) (27 reads) link +5 What happens when they get a better deal someplace else? --- BeaverDude -- ( Jul 03, 08:57, 2008 ) (20 reads) +2 It is debatable to what extent already low state taxes contribute to a --- bobmjohnson -- ( Jul 03, 09:44, 2008 ) (23 reads) link +1 the total tax structure (income, propery, B&O, VAT, etc) has a big impact on decisions --- shanghaibeav -- ( Jul 03, 10:29, 2008 ) (16 reads) link +1 Yep. It has a tremendous impact on individuals too. (no text) --- bobmjohnson -- ( Jul 03, 10:31, 2008 ) (1 reads) For starters there is no such thing as a Meth Head Free Ride program. --- Beaversion2 -- ( Jul 04, 13:07, 2008 ) (4 reads)

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So the name of a building in Salem made me laugh. It was named after the cross streets. --- dambeaver -- ( Jul 03, 07:25, 2008 ) (45 reads)

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Gas prices --- dambeaver -- ( Jul 03, 07:23, 2008 ) (39 reads) link +13 Who's to blame? --- SASQUATCH -- ( Jul 03, 07:38, 2008 ) (37 reads) +4 The list is endless... --- BeaverDude -- ( Jul 03, 08:47, 2008 ) (31 reads) +1 Re: The list is endless... --- desertwop -- ( Jul 03, 09:57, 2008 ) (27 reads) Big oil for refusing to drill in sites they already have permission to do so on? (no text) --- bobmjohnson -- ( Jul 03, 09:45, 2008 ) (4 reads) +1 Re: Big oil for refusing to drill in sites they already have permission to do so on? --- desertwop -- ( Jul 03, 09:58, 2008 ) (30 reads) +1 I have heard and read the same thing wop. --- bobmjohnson -- ( Jul 03, 10:29, 2008 ) (31 reads) link +1 Re: I have heard and read the same thing wop. --- desertwop -- ( Jul 03, 10:53, 2008 ) (30 reads) link +2 Is there a silver lining in this? --- aquaticrodent -- ( Jul 03, 11:12, 2008 ) (27 reads) +1 i think this is crazy...rant coming... --- shanghaibeav -- ( Jul 03, 11:45, 2008 ) (35 reads) +1 I agree . . . perhaps you should run for office . --- IOC000 -- ( Jul 03, 20:13, 2008 ) (11 reads) It seems to me the expenses he talks about to precede drilling --- bobmjohnson -- ( Jul 03, 11:23, 2008 ) (25 reads) Planning? --- Overbite -- ( Jul 03, 11:29, 2008 ) (19 reads) Re: Who's to blame? Detroit for producing gas guzzlers? Congress for not increasing CAFE? Consumers for buying gas guzzlers? --- dambeaver -- ( Jul 03, 12:07, 2008 ) (15 reads)

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FOX Reports.........you decide. --- GoBeavs -- ( Jul 02, 18:36, 2008 ) (87 reads) link +12 How come whenever someone tries to attack Fox News........ --- beeev -- ( Jul 02, 20:10, 2008 ) (50 reads) +4 How come they changed the pictures? --- GoBeavs -- ( Jul 02, 20:50, 2008 ) (37 reads) +1 Because its FUNNY * --- beeev -- ( Jul 02, 21:26, 2008 ) (33 reads) +1 When you have to tell someone what you told them is funny... --- GoBeavs -- ( Jul 02, 23:04, 2008 ) (25 reads) +1 Some people have a better sense of humor than others. (no text) --- beeev -- ( Jul 03, 08:00, 2008 ) (3 reads) +1 And some laugh at train wrecks or traffic accidents. (no text) --- bobmjohnson -- ( Jul 03, 08:40, 2008 ) (1 reads) maybe they should drop the "NEWS" portion of their channel name --- StateOfOrange -- ( Jul 02, 22:35, 2008 ) (21 reads) +1 So what should CNN and MSNBC tout themselves as? Or NPR for that matter? (no text) --- beeev -- ( Jul 02, 22:48, 2008 ) (4 reads) +1 CNN used to be a news network. no more. just like MTV used to be about music videos --- StateOfOrange -- ( Jul 02, 22:58, 2008 ) (20 reads) more like the big "to do" when Newsweek altered (darkened) OJ Simpson pic --- StateOfOrange -- ( Jul 02, 23:03, 2008 ) (22 reads) Re: How come whenever someone tries to attack Fox News........Beeev defends Faux News? --- dambeaver -- ( Jul 03, 06:34, 2008 ) (17 reads) +1 I'm glad you didn't say Nickelodeon. Spongebob Squarepants has historically gotten higher cable ratings than any FoxNews show --- StateOfOrange -- ( Jul 03, 14:06, 2008 ) (8 reads)

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Do any of you know what meth smells like? --- GoBeavs -- ( Jul 02, 18:23, 2008 ) (58 reads) +5 New benefit for the drivers? --- dambeaver -- ( Jul 02, 19:08, 2008 ) (37 reads) +1 It's not that bad. --- GoBeavs -- ( Jul 02, 20:54, 2008 ) (28 reads) Don't know about the smell, but doesn't it make your teeth turn yellow? --- beeev -- ( Jul 02, 21:40, 2008 ) (30 reads) +1 Meth or Fox. You decide. (no text) --- GoBeavs -- ( Jul 02, 23:14, 2008 ) (3 reads) An uck? (no text) --- bobmjohnson -- ( Jul 03, 06:55, 2008 ) (2 reads)

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OK, you guys can now kiss my ring --- sagebrushbeaver -- ( Jul 02, 16:25, 2008 ) (59 reads) +1 Congrats. Don't forget to hire relatives! :-) (no text) --- bobmjohnson -- ( Jul 02, 18:14, 2008 ) (2 reads)

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Do we have to import everything from China? --- dambeaver -- ( Jul 02, 14:25, 2008 ) (34 reads) link +1 I saw that article. Must make the elder Bush's really proud of their son and his admin. (no text) --- bobmjohnson -- ( Jul 03, 06:58, 2008 ) (1 reads)

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One other thing for fence-sitters to consider during this campaign --- dambeaver -- ( Jul 02, 14:17, 2008 ) (50 reads) link +4 hey, if we have record poppy and coca harvests --- then we DON'T have a drug problem --- shanghaibeav -- ( Jul 02, 16:36, 2008 ) (23 reads) +2 "Dope will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no dope."—Freewheelin' Franklin --- BeaverDude -- ( Jul 02, 17:04, 2008 ) (17 reads) +1 Also from Gilbert Shelton...Wonder Warthog --- dambeaver -- ( Jul 02, 19:07, 2008 ) (16 reads) For a different reason, I was very careful to avoid the term "drug problem." --- dambeaver -- ( Jul 02, 19:06, 2008 ) (18 reads)

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Who says blowhard drug addicts can't do well? --- beeev -- ( Jul 02, 08:46, 2008 ) (85 reads) link +2 Cindy McCain's doing quite well too... --- rollo_tomasi -- ( Jul 02, 10:16, 2008 ) (57 reads) As long as we are on the subject.... --- dambeaver -- ( Jul 02, 13:51, 2008 ) (42 reads) link

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I got a pretty good shock yesterday --- dambeaver -- ( Jul 02, 06:35, 2008 ) (77 reads) +13 dambeaver --- bigfatbeaver -- ( Jul 02, 06:45, 2008 ) (44 reads) +1 Thanks --- dambeaver -- ( Jul 02, 07:06, 2008 ) (34 reads) BlueCross rates soar 26 percent. Universal Health care anyone? --- bobmjohnson -- ( Jul 02, 07:11, 2008 ) (37 reads) link +3 no thanks (no text) --- bbeav -- ( Jul 02, 07:21, 2008 ) (3 reads) +1 See many worms down there? (no text) --- bobmjohnson -- ( Jul 02, 07:28, 2008 ) (4 reads) +1 No, just trial lawyers looking for massive amounts of $$$ (no text) --- bbeav -- ( Jul 02, 08:02, 2008 ) (3 reads) +1 Focus here while looking elsewhere. (no text) --- bobmjohnson -- ( Jul 02, 08:35, 2008 ) (2 reads) Where do they suggest universal healthcare? --- BeaverDude -- ( Jul 02, 08:09, 2008 ) (30 reads) +1 Universal Healthcare does control costs at the source. You may not want --- bobmjohnson -- ( Jul 02, 08:35, 2008 ) (47 reads) +2 Nope, not even close --- BeaverDude -- ( Jul 02, 10:32, 2008 ) (36 reads) Bob, did you see this editorial? --- bLeaver -- ( Jul 02, 15:00, 2008 ) (22 reads) link +1 No I hadn't seen it before bLeaver. --- bobmjohnson -- ( Jul 02, 15:25, 2008 ) (26 reads) I was going to link that article... --- giantkillers -- ( Jul 02, 09:41, 2008 ) (32 reads)

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haves and have nots --- bigfatbeaver -- ( Jul 02, 06:31, 2008 ) (59 reads) link +6 Don't hate him because he's smarter than you. --- beaversage -- ( Jul 02, 08:14, 2008 ) (44 reads) Re: haves and have nots --- giantkillers -- ( Jul 02, 20:32, 2008 ) (20 reads) +1 Re: Re: haves and have nots --- bigfatbeaver -- ( Jul 02, 20:55, 2008 ) (15 reads) +1 Sorry, this "issue" is an absolute non-starter. Obama used his FINANCIAL position to negotiate a good loan...just like you would if you could --- beaversage -- ( Jul 03, 08:52, 2008 ) (10 reads) link +2 shocking...a HuffingtonPost "article" supportive of Obama... well, that settles it then --- shanghaibeav -- ( Jul 03, 11:15, 2008 ) (4 reads) link Re: Sorry, this "issue" is an absolute non-starter. Obama used his FINANCIAL position to negotiate a good loan...just like you would if you could --- bigfatbeaver -- ( Jul 03, 15:34, 2008 ) (6 reads)

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John McCain --- MCRD 58 -- ( Jul 01, 19:04, 2008 ) (67 reads) link +2 The silence is deafening. (no text) --- Drunkandstoopidbeav -- ( Jul 02, 21:33, 2008 ) (4 reads) +1 yes, McCain's rabid support is obviously overwhelming --- StateOfOrange -- ( Jul 02, 22:34, 2008 ) (15 reads)

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I'm not liking the direction this is going --- StateOfOrange -- ( Jul 01, 18:14, 2008 ) (89 reads) link +22 "You thought Haditha was bad...." Hey @ss-hat...... --- beeev -- ( Jul 01, 18:46, 2008 ) (47 reads) +1 yes. I believe everything military tribunals find in cases. --- StateOfOrange -- ( Jul 01, 20:42, 2008 ) (37 reads) +1 Usually not name-calling type - but douche bag comment stands. You're ignorant of military tribunals for one thing........ --- beeev -- ( Jul 01, 21:01, 2008 ) (39 reads) +2 Speaking of DB's --- pdxorange -- ( Jul 01, 23:43, 2008 ) (38 reads) +1 Re: Speaking of DB's --- beeev -- ( Jul 02, 01:15, 2008 ) (33 reads) so what you're saying is you like watching JAG (no text) --- StateOfOrange -- ( Jul 02, 00:06, 2008 ) (4 reads) why did you put "bad seed" in quotes? --- shanghaibeav -- ( Jul 01, 19:52, 2008 ) (34 reads) link +1 to annoy you --- StateOfOrange -- ( Jul 01, 20:39, 2008 ) (29 reads) +1 i do get annoyed when people disrespect and undermine our military and therefore our country... --- shanghaibeav -- ( Jul 02, 07:47, 2008 ) (26 reads) +1 "disrespect and undermine"? you mean like endless deployments, reduction of benefits --- StateOfOrange -- ( Jul 02, 08:20, 2008 ) (28 reads) +2 nope -- i mean like when DBs on internet boards refer to our soldiers as rapists and murderers..... (no text) --- shanghaibeav -- ( Jul 02, 11:26, 2008 ) (4 reads) Don't forget --- Space_Beaver -- ( Jul 02, 11:28, 2008 ) (28 reads) I don't like the lowering of standards for accepting volunteers and still --- bobmjohnson -- ( Jul 01, 20:12, 2008 ) (37 reads) +3 Mandatory service --- BeaverDude -- ( Jul 02, 08:16, 2008 ) (24 reads) +1 good luck with that (no text) --- StateOfOrange -- ( Jul 02, 08:22, 2008 ) (4 reads) +1 Exactly my point! --- BeaverDude -- ( Jul 02, 10:15, 2008 ) (20 reads) +1 I was thinking more along the lines of how enacting laws work --- StateOfOrange -- ( Jul 02, 10:29, 2008 ) (22 reads) Giant chill pill --- Space_Beaver -- ( Jul 02, 08:32, 2008 ) (27 reads) it looks like Military are pretty well split on McCain vs. Obama --- StateOfOrange -- ( Jul 02, 08:45, 2008 ) (25 reads) +1 Once the military figures out Obama's attitude toward them mirrors yours...... --- beeev -- ( Jul 02, 22:50, 2008 ) (11 reads) +1 I like how I suddenly have a bad attitude toward the military because I point out a couple of bad cases --- StateOfOrange -- ( Jul 02, 23:00, 2008 ) (13 reads) +1 Your 'guilty even if proven innocent' stance is not showing them any "love" in my book. --- beeev -- ( Jul 03, 08:05, 2008 ) (6 reads)

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The complete transcript from Wes Clark's appearance on CBS' Face the Nation --- JimBeav -- ( Jul 01, 16:35, 2008 ) (49 reads) link +12 The remark getting all the pub wasn't the stupid one, it was his original comment that McCain is "untested and untried". --- beeev -- ( Jul 01, 16:45, 2008 ) (28 reads) +2 Re: The remark getting all the pub wasn't the stupid one, it was his original comment that McCain is "untested and untried". --- ponderingbeaver -- ( Jul 01, 17:14, 2008 ) (41 reads) +1 living up to your name --- StateOfOrange -- ( Jul 01, 20:48, 2008 ) (25 reads) Wes Clark --- MCRD 58 -- ( Jul 01, 17:20, 2008 ) (40 reads) Re: The complete transcript from Wes Clark's appearance on CBS' Face the Nation --- rileyandco -- ( Jul 01, 17:06, 2008 ) (24 reads) A "street smart" candidate will have at least one attack dog to make points he personally can't make --- StateOfOrange -- ( Jul 01, 18:12, 2008 ) (25 reads) +1 I love that Clark is standing by his comments. --- beeev -- ( Jul 01, 19:45, 2008 ) (29 reads) +1 if that makes you feel better. how's he doing with evangelicals? --- StateOfOrange -- ( Jul 01, 20:42, 2008 ) (27 reads) +1 I suspect that by Nov. the Reverand Wright will say something to bring the evangelicals around to McCain (no text) --- bbeav -- ( Jul 02, 05:51, 2008 ) (4 reads) +1 what Reverant Wright might say from now til November no longer has a bearing on Obama --- StateOfOrange -- ( Jul 02, 08:21, 2008 ) (18 reads) +1 It will to evangelicals. --- beeev -- ( Jul 02, 08:40, 2008 ) (24 reads) +1 only the dumb ones --- StateOfOrange -- ( Jul 02, 23:14, 2008 ) (8 reads)

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Big differences between McCain and Obama in regards to Amtrak --- dambeaver -- ( Jul 01, 14:30, 2008 ) (45 reads) link +1 Our failure to have a national broad based infrastructure policy and plan --- bobmjohnson -- ( Jul 02, 07:27, 2008 ) (12 reads)

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I'm holding out for the Brain Surgery book --- dambeaver -- ( Jul 01, 13:14, 2008 ) (22 reads) link

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Aero - here's some stuff on McCain's economic policies/plans --- dambeaver -- ( Jul 01, 12:51, 2008 ) (26 reads) link +2 Thank you.. --- aerobeav -- ( Jul 01, 18:09, 2008 ) (12 reads) Neither candidate is proposing a balanced budget. Nor a cut in spending. --- bobmjohnson -- ( Jul 02, 07:39, 2008 ) (9 reads)

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Impact of gas prices on rural communities --- dambeaver -- ( Jul 01, 11:54, 2008 ) (39 reads) link +3 LOL! Yeah....'cause small towns are chock full of guys commuting 100 miles each way. --- beeev -- ( Jul 01, 18:52, 2008 ) (23 reads) +1 I knew a guy who lived in a small town in Washington near I-5 --- StateOfOrange -- ( Jul 01, 20:49, 2008 ) (23 reads) +1 They are obviously the exception, and probably idiots. --- beeev -- ( Jul 01, 21:53, 2008 ) (20 reads)

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A United States in shambles --- bobmjohnson -- ( Jul 01, 08:40, 2008 ) (73 reads) link +14 Focus! --- BeaverDude -- ( Jul 01, 10:37, 2008 ) (56 reads) +2 uhh....typical. --- StateOfOrange -- ( Jul 01, 10:53, 2008 ) (50 reads) +1 Start shopping at Winco, it will open your eyes. --- BeaverDude -- ( Jul 01, 13:21, 2008 ) (47 reads) +2 True. A talk with a veteran police officer or teacher would confirm what you're saying. --- aquaticrodent -- ( Jul 01, 14:04, 2008 ) (47 reads) Yeah, there are some there that abuse the system, but .... --- dambeaver -- ( Jul 01, 18:32, 2008 ) (19 reads) The two problems are not mutually exclusive Dude. --- bobmjohnson -- ( Jul 01, 11:12, 2008 ) (35 reads) +1 The programs may not be mutually exlusive but the money is --- BeaverDude -- ( Jul 01, 13:14, 2008 ) (30 reads) +1 No, the money isn't. Remember Iraq was a choice by the BushBunch/neo-cons --- bobmjohnson -- ( Jul 01, 15:10, 2008 ) (21 reads) +1 Bait and switch --- BeaverDude -- ( Jul 01, 15:38, 2008 ) (19 reads) +2 What other name? Oh heck, how about compassionate conservatism? :-) --- bobmjohnson -- ( Jul 01, 15:45, 2008 ) (23 reads) +1 Iraq Obsession --- BeaverDude -- ( Jul 01, 16:53, 2008 ) (16 reads) +1 and yet. --- StateOfOrange -- ( Jul 01, 18:16, 2008 ) (16 reads) OR you RESTORE tax rates to where they were when we were paying down the debt --- StateOfOrange -- ( Jul 01, 18:03, 2008 ) (18 reads) Don't believe everything you read. --- Beaversion2 -- ( Jul 01, 13:14, 2008 ) (42 reads)

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